THE TRUTH ABOUT THE CONTESTS

Roe, Gilbert E.

The Truth About the Contests 2.—What is Shown in the Records of the National Commitiee By GILBERT E. ROE THE FOLLOWING TABLE shows the number of delegates contested from each state at large, and...

...of Page District Delegates How Decided of Record ALABAMA At Large...
...X-l, June 15 3rd District...
...McHarg, for the Roosevelt people, waived argument on these districts...
...10 V. V., Unan...
...8 withdrawn) YY-1, June 12 3rd Districts...
...G-20, June 7 5th District...
...10 R. C, Refused PPPP-2, June 15 DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA At Large...
...Z-3, 4, June 15 4th District...
...2 R. C, Unan...
...C. Unan...
...Since it is in the seating of only the 72 delegates above mentioned that the Roosevelt adherents charge fraud, it is not necessary to consider any other contests than the ones involving the seats of these 72 delegates...
...LL-1, June 10 1st District...
...36 were seated by unanimous vote on roll call...
...I'll wait five minutes.—Brooklyn Life...
...Contests were withdrawn by 14 Roosevelt contesting delegates after the case was called, and in the case of 88 Taft delegates they were seated by a viva voce vote without any request for a roll call...
...An inspection of list No...
...Occasionally where the vote was viva voce it was announced whether it was unanimous or not...
...2 V. V. S-2, June 14 TENNESSEE 1st District...
...TTTT-1, June 15 Only 65 "Substantial" Contests...
...2 R. C, Refused BB-11, June 15 5th District...
...2 V. V., Unan...
...Not Like R. W. C—Kidder—That fellow makes a living writing light fiction...
...how the contests were decided by the National Committee, and the page of the record where the decision of the contest is found...
...4 R. C, Unan...
...2. R. C, 36 to 14 ZZZ-5, June 10 KENTUCKY At Large 3...
...Next week Mr...
...D-l, June 8 4th District...
...2 R. C., Unan...
...Housewife—Nope...
...FROM THE foregoing table it will be seen that the whole number of contests was 105, and that the number of seats involved therein was 248...
...Alabama...
...2 R. C, Unan...
...P-2, June 8 1st District...
...7th 2 Texas...
...of Page Districts Delegates How Decided of Record TEXAS At Large...
...2 V. V. Q-15, June 8 GEORGIA At Large...
...In North Carolina there was a contest between the Roosevelt factions, and the Taft people claimed nothing in these districts...
...2 R. C, Refused NN-3, June 14 10th District...
...C. Refused" indicates that some member of the Committee demanded a roll call but that the necessary twenty members did not sustain the demand...
...California...
...Roe will discuss the evidence submitted in the cases of these 72 delegates referred to in the motion of Governor Hadley.—Editor's Note...
...L-5, June 7 1st District...
...Thirteen of those members presented a minority report to the National Committee in which they set out that the Taft delegates seated from the states and districts shown by the following table, were improperly seated, and that the Roosevelt delegates contesting said seats, should be placed on the temporary roll...
...TT-2, June 10 3rd District...
...G-17, June 7 3rd & 4th Dists...
...PP-13, June 13 4th District...
...4th 2 Indiana...
...2 V. V., Unan...
...6 R. C, Unan...
...Here are the Facts...
...LOUISIANA At Large...
...Kidder—He's not...
...2 R. C, Refused 0-4, June 14 SOUTH CAROLINA 1st District...
...2 V. V. Q-7, June 8 2nd District...
...Under the heading of "How Decided," the table shows all cases in which a roll call was had and in which it was demanded and refused...
...PPP-l,Junell 11th District 4...
...6 R. C, 42 to 8 XX-1, June 12 1st, 2nd, 6th and) (Roosevelt contest XX-1, June 12 7th Dists...
...From the table it further appears that there were 164 Taft delegates seated either by the unanimous vote of the National Committee or by a viva voce vote when the contest was not regarded as sufficiently serious to require a roll call...
...5th 2...
...At Large 8 Washington...
...INDIANA At Large...
...2nd 2 Tennessee...
...and to this number should be added William L. Ward of New York...
...10th 2 Texas...
...2 V. V., Unan...
...V." indicates that the vote was viva voce, and that no roll call was demanded by anyone...
...7th 2 Kentucky...
...These delegates were constantly asserted by the Roosevelt managers to have been elected as Roosevelt delegates, although it must have been known that he had no right to any of them, and no hope of receiving any of their votes in the National Convention...
...District...
...2 R. C., Refused YY-2, June 15 15th District...
...2 R. C., Refused N-3, June 13 8th District...
...Burnham, Roosevelt Committeeman from Kentucky, moved to seat 1 Roosevelt and 1 Taft delegate...
...2nd 2 Washington...
...Before considering the evidence respecting these several contests, however, it is important to note that if every one of these 72 delegates had been given to Roosevelt, he still would not have had enough to nominate him, but Taft's nomination on the first ballot would have been prevented...
...2 V. V. QQ-2, June 13 OKLAHOMA 3rd District...
...To be exact, 26 Taft delegates were seated by a viva voce vote shown to be unanimous...
...He makes out statements for the electric-light companies.—Judge...
...Under the rules adopted by the National Committee it was necessary that twenty members of the Committee should support the demand for a roll call before it would be allowed...
...of State...
...It is also no doubt true that many delegates were elected for Colonel Roosevelt during the latter part of the campaign, because of the false claims put forward by his managers concerning the 164 delegates above mentioned...
...PP-8-10, June 13 NORTH CAROLINA 3rd District...
...2 V. V., Unan...
...U-l, June 15 2nd District...
...4 R. C, Refused A. F.-7, June 12 1st District...
...2 R. C, 42 to 10 L-l, June 8 7th District...
...2 (Roosevelt contest withdrawn) CCC-2, June 10 13th Districts...
...11th 2 Michigan...
...2 V. V. CCC-1, June 10 4th District...
...2 V. V., Unan...
...2 R. C, Unan...
...4 V. V. JJ-1, June 13 1st, 3rd, 5th, 7th and 14th Districts...
...2 R. C, Unan...
...2 R. C, 49 to 2 M-12, June 7 2nd District...
...2 each from the 3rd, 4th and 9th districts of North Carolina...
...and whenever a roll call was obtained, the result of the vote is given...
...2 which I hand to the Secretary, and that the temporary roll when thus amended, become the temporary roll of the Convention...
...Where the roll call was demanded and refused because the necessary twenty members did not support the demand, it may fairly'be, inferred that there was a division in tne Committee on that contest...
...and that also is indicated in the table...
...and 2 each from the 3rd and 15th districts of Texas...
...2 V. V. FFF-4, June 12 5th District...
...9th 2 Texas...
...Deducting the 19 Roosevelt delegates seated from the whole number in contest, leaves 229, and deducting the 164 Taft delegates above mentioned, seated by the practically unanimous action of the National Committee, leaves 65 delegates as the only ones concerning whom ti.ere was a substantial contest...
...As the amendment in such case involved the merits, I have treated the roll call or the demand for one, thereon, whether allowed or not, the same as though it arose upon the main question...
...2 V. V. BBB-3, June 15 VIRGINIA At Large, 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, 8th and 10th Districts...
...6 R. C, Refused M-4, June 12 No...
...G-15, June 7 2nd District...
...2 V. V., Unan...
...14th 2 Washington...
...Enough were afterwards added to bring the total up to 72...
...2 (Rooseveltcontest withdrawn) XX-3, June 11 7th District...
...Where a roll call was not had, it is impossible from the record in most cases to state whether the vote of the Committee was unanimous or not...
...4 R. C, Refused P-l, June 15 1st District...
...20 V. V. SSS-2, June 15 WASHINGTON At Large, 1st, 2nd and 3rd Districts...
...2 (Roosevelt contest withdrawn) A. G.-2, June 12 2nd, 4th, 6th and 7th Dists...
...No Use for It.—Agent—I called, madam, to ask if you have a vacuum cleaner...
...5th 2 Texas...
...11th 2 Texas...
...1 and list No...
...3rd 2 Tennessee...
...Kiddee—He doesn't look like a literary chap...
...The actual number of delegates involved was considerably larger than this as there were sometimes three sets of contesting delegates and in several instances not shown in this table, the same faction of the party had contesting delegations...
...2 V. V. H-16, June 7 9th District...
...2 R. C., 35 to 17 LLL-6, June 11 10th District...
...2 R. C, Refused UU-2, June 15 14th District...
...20 V. V. W-4, June 8 11th District...
...2 R. C, 38 to 13 SSX-4, June 11 8th District...
...Roosevelt was awarded 19 contested delegates as follows: Eleventh district Kentucky 1; Missouri at large 4, and 2 each from the first and fifth Missouri districts...
...F-ll, June 7 1st District...
...4 V. V. V-l, June 8 1st to 10th Dists...
...At La-rge 6 Arkansas...
...2 V. V. TTTT-2, June 15 9th District...
...Johnny—But it won't be consecutive, Ma...
...Knicker— You mustn't ask for a third piece of pie...
...2 V. V. AA-3, June 14 2nd District...
...2 R. C., Refused KKK-2, June 12 5 This seems to have been a contest between Taft delegates...
...2 R. C, Unan...
...Each day's proceedings are paged separately, and the date in each case is given in the table...
...TT-1, June 14 No...
...2 V. V., Unan...
...2 R. C, Refused PP-12, June 15 10th District...
...2 R. C, Unan...
...2 V. V. W-5, June 8 12th District...
...2 V. V. X-l, June 13 MISSOURI At Large...
...M-3, June 8 1 In this contest, Mr...
...2 R. C, Refused KK-1, June 15 9th District...
...2 R. C, 33 to 19 EEEE-1, June 11 3 Roosevelt people allowed to present and argue on affidavits not in record...
...3rd 2 Texas...
...P-9, June 7 3rd District...
...8 V. V. G-l, June 13 5th District...
...2, in the Hadley resolution, shows that it was simply proposed to substitute the Roosevelt delegates for the Taft delegates in the states and districts shown in the last preceding table...
...13th 2 Kentucky...
...IN PRESENTING the history of these contests, I have simply endeavored to give the facts, from which the public may draw its own conclusions and make its own deductions...
...2 R. C, 37 to 16 EE-2, June 12 FLORIDA At Large...
...A Future Politician.—Mrs...
...1, which I hand to the Secretary, and that there be substituted in lieu thereof the names upon list No...
...Delegates...
...2 R. C, Unan...
...Y-4, June 11 2nd District...
...2 V. V. Q-12, June 8 3rd District...
...9th 2 Texas...
...2 V. V. H-14, June 7 6th District...
...2 R. C, Refused GG-8, June 15 7th District...
...MICHIGAN At Large...
...we ain't even got a vacuum.—Ex...
...FF-5, June 11 4th District...
...G-l, June 8 5th District 1...
...CALIFORNIA 4th District...
...There were fourteen members of the National Committee who could be relied on as Roosevelt partisans, thirteen of whom signed the minority report of the National Committee, which will hereafter be noticed...
...6 V. V. XXX-3, June 12 MISSISSIPPI At Large...
...2 V. V. II-3, June 15 8th District...
...2 V. V., Unan...
...The Truth About the Contests 2.—What is Shown in the Records of the National Commitiee By GILBERT E. ROE THE FOLLOWING TABLE shows the number of delegates contested from each state at large, and from each district...
...4 V. V., Unan...
...On June 19th, Governor Hadley, the leader of the Roosevelt forces, made the following motion in the National Convention: "I move as a substitute for the motion offered by the gentleman from Indiana, Mr...
...In this contest the motion to seat 2 Roosevelt delegates from this District failed by above vote, and it was then decided by a viva voce vote to place 1 Roosevelt and 1 Taft delegate on the roll...
...2 V. V. W-15, June 8 2 Mr...
...It sometimes happened that at the conclusion of a contest a motion would be made to seat either the Taft or Roosevelt delegates and an amendment offered proposing to seat the delegation opposed to the one covered by the main motion, and the roll call or the demand for the roll call would arise upon such amendment and thereafter the main question would be settled by a viva voce vote...
...All the other contests were decided in favor of President Taft and this fact must be kept in mind in order to understand the significance of the table...
...Watson, that the list of delegates or temporary roll of this Convention, be amended by striking therefrom the names of the delegates upon list No...
...6 R. C, Unan...
...means that a roll call was had on the particular contest, and the vote of the National Committee was unanimous...
...1st 2 Washington...
...4 R. C., 38 to 11 W-4, June 11 1st District...
...The abbreviation in the table, "R...
...The record here referred to is that of the official stenographic report...
...CCC-3, June 12 4th District...
...8th 2 Kentucky...
...2 R. C.-38 to 15 J-10, June 7 ARIZONA At Large...
...Where no roll call was demanded, it may fairly be assumed that there was no serious contest and no division in the Committee...
...4th 2 Texas...
...3rd 2 * * * While this table shows 72 delegates to have been seriously contested by the Roosevelt people, the sheet containing the original lead pencil memoranda which in some way became attached to the report, shows that the original number of delegates marked for contest was 66...
...of Page Districts Delegates How Decided of Record ARKANSAS At Large...
...At Large 6 Oklahoma...
...This motion was lost by above vote and the 2 Taft delegates were seated by viva voce vote...
...At Large 8 Texas...
...8th 2 Texas...
...9th 2 Arizona...
...The National Convention refused to adopt the Hadley resolution and it is that action which the Roosevelt adherents assert made it fraudulent...
...2 V. V. HH-4, June 14 9th District...
...The correctness of these figures is strikingly verified by the action of the Roosevelt members of the National Committee...
...2 V. V., Unan...
...4 R. C, Unan...

Vol. 4 • July 1912 • No. 30


 
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