LET US SUPPOSE
KIRKPATRICK, G. R.
LET US SUPPOSE Let Us Suppose All Of Us Lived On Fish....... By G. R. KIRKPATRICK SUPPOSE all of us lived entirely on Ash. Of course, in such case the production and distribution of fish would...
...Common sense clearly urges you te Ash in the socially-owned lake, catch Ave Ash and keep feer Bah...
...E. O. Robertson...
...Let us suppose further that one of these lakea is socially owned and socially controlled, with a social purpose, the social purpose being the welfare of all who are willing to get a living by producing a living...
...Science and Religion Editor, The New Leader: In regard to Mr...
...We oppose such favoritism and we would oppose it if some other creed, science, philosophy, doctrine or belief, was seeking such State support.— Editor...
...A Government Engineer...
...Our Socialist movement has in it people of all sorts of religious beliefs, but as Socialists they recognize the danger of State legislation favoring or opposing any one belief...
...Today hundreda of millions of wage-earners in capitaliat nations accept from their "superiors" the cunning advice thst "poverty is s blessing in disguise," snd thst one fish is better thsn four...
...You have a right to your opinion, But you 'iave no right to use Socialism as your acspegoat You curse Socialism...
...Slavea accented slavery...
...We oppose injection of religious questions which have always been used to divide' the masses and insure their exploitation by the ruling classes...
...Interest in the work is thus thrown to the winds as time goes by and the general efficiency takes a sudden drop...
...Serf a accepted serfdom...
...The heads of the department know about them, but so far they have shown no interest to correct them...
...Ha rites Luther Burhank...
...For many hundreda of yeara tens of millions of serfs—under serfdom —accepted the advice of their superiors, supporting the social parasites who gave them the false advice that the "Lord loves the lowly snd the poor" snd the atupidly humble...
...Let Qi suppose also that the total available supply of fiah ia in two equally good, well-stocked lakea— With plenty of fish for all of us in either lake...
...It is not a question as to whether religion or science shall be taught, but whether one shall be selected to the exclusion of the other...
...Sweating Ike Engineers Editor, The New Leader: It will be considered a great help by the United States Engineers, First District, New York, if you would publish and bring before tha public the contents of the enclosed article...
...I have no objection to some people believing their ancestors were monkeys, but whsn they want to teach our children such rot we call a halt, No one but an athiest would foster such doctrine as that...
...Hold on...
...Now, let us suppose that you sre I free to fish in either lake, just aa you ' may prefer—on the following conditions: First—If you Ash in the socially-owned lake and catch Ave Ash, you will be required to give up one Sell (to cover your share of the general expenses of upkeep, superintendence, etc...
...We believe that teaching should be free snd sll ideas, whether religious, scientific or political, should have an opportunity to compete for the allegiance of human beings without sny one being especially selected by the State or being especially excluded by the State...
...If you are a working man, juat a wage-earner, a "hand," a clerk, a aervant, a "stung" farmer, a peraon of the working clasa, if you "work for a living," you should be very careful how you venture in answering such a great question...
...Harrow is an agnostic and we opposed his support of the Democratic party last year...
...A child will promptly give you the correct answer—because the child's mind is not yet poisoned and thu - paralyzed with false and vicious economic teachings to suit the interests of the economic ruling class...
...This does not mean belief or opposition to religious beliefs...
...By G. R. KIRKPATRICK SUPPOSE all of us lived entirely on Ash...
...All of them will always give you the wrong answer, hut you will be so bewildered you will accept their cunning advice...
...We know that most of the professional agnostics and infidels are also supporters of capitalism and for us to become an agnostic paper would be for us to range it with these capitalistic supporters.—Editor...
...Then let us suppose that the other lske is owned snd controlled privstely by a corporstlon of pOmpous snd cunning "leading citizens," "big business men," capitalists who are in the fish business for profits...
...They were persecuted, killed, sawed asunder, boiled in oil, yet they increased in number...
...You misrepresented it to me aa s Socislist paper snd I subscribed for it You have cheated my family and my neighbors out of s Socialist paper as I am obliged to consign it to the Are instesd of psssing it on...
...I ssy no...
...Burbanb ia too smart a man te believe that gravity, sleetri:rty, velocity of light, trooeope has anything or ties thst Would csuse a monkey to evolve into a man...
...Now Mr...
...But the Chrisian religion went through fire, stood the test, and there are millions of Christians today who will testify to the power of God to save from sin and thousands can testify to the power of Christ to heal the afflicted body and who know by experience...
...Benjamin Chass's article in The New Leader, I would like to say a few words if you will be fair and print them...
...Now, in the dark ages Christians were called religious heretics...
...They work regardless of weather conditions and great responsibilities are placed on their shoulders...
...Ingersoll was of the same type and was a Republican...
...Second—If you Ash in the privately-owned lake, and catch Ave Ash, you will be required to give up one Ash—as before, to cover your share of the expenses of superintendence, upkeep, etc.—and alao give up three more Ash as net proAts for the private owners, and keep one fish for yourself...
...You do it more harm then sll its enemies...
...but does their pay warrant them...
...This is the main issue he stressed and it is the fundamental issue today in matters of education...
...U. A. WELCHONS...
...We will greatly appreciate your cooperation in enlightening the people of our existence and working conditions...
...Wait...
...and keep four Ash for yourself...
...Chass produce One witness who has ever been benefited by this Darwinism or monkey philosophy...
...Here we went to emphssize for the benefit of all correspondents like Mr...
...The psy averages from $116 to S160 per month to men who have gone through colleges—to men who have studied from four to five long years and who are constantly facing true dangers in overcoming obstacles to place rsnges or take soundings in order to make the rivers ssfe for navigation...
...but has any one given a thought to what salaries the Engineers employed by the Government ia the First Dis-tsH Now York, reserve...
...The truth or falsehood of either religion or science is not involved in this issue...
...Question: Which lake would you Ash in—if you are not crazy or bewildered with the advice of your "superiors...
...It so happens that Fundamentalists are trying to make their creed a State dogma...
...Chass in the expression "religious bigots...
...This is the historical position of Socialist parties in all countries...
...It cannot go on indefinitely...
...These are the vital questions which the men cannot get suitable answers to, and so they search for places that have better working conditions and better prospects of promotion, where they receive more psy...
...Chass says that Church and .State should be kept separate...
...Fallbrook, Calif...
...That would be one of the "great questions of the twentieth century," the "burning question of the hour," a "paramount issue," if you please...
...Please dent try to answer it yourself You might get the headache...
...Can Mr...
...And thus they majte a "sucker" of the worker...
...Now let us read the nobly eloquent snd unforgettably beautiful words of the prophet, Hezekiah, 23rd Chapter and 13th verse: "It is inconvenient to be crazy and it is bell to be a fool...
...We need a Socialist paper badly in this community but no infidel paper...
...But this little bunch of Evolution scientists of about 5,000 that Mr...
...Their JMkgsieeeassestsmataates'tae Aw mssjswaesui IS has seen a mystery as to reasons why ths Government Engineers have not received increases in the past few years...
...Josephus tells of the Roman army slaughtering thousands of helpless unarmed men and women and children because they believed and worshipped the true God...
...It is not an agnostic or infidel paper, no more than the "New York World and many other papers nre that oppose the Fundamentalist law of Tennessee...
...You may fool a lot ef subscribers by misrepresenting it to subscribe once, but thst is all...
...The City Ene-ineers have raised another howl about their wages, for they have the right to kick...
...Hasn't faith in God and His word, the Bible, been tested time and again and always proved rue' Take the Bible history of the Jews...
...We would oppose a Catholic law of this character or a law that attempted to make Evolution a State dogma...
...Your superiors will always advise you to fish in the* privately-owned lake, catch Ave Asb and give up four Ash...
...You print some grand Socialism, then kill it all by your ungodly infidelic poison, more poisonous snd dsngsrous to a Christian home than the rattlesnake's fangs...
...steps have to be taken to correct these evils, and they must be taken soon...
...Answer , Our contributor, Benjamin Chass, did not call those who "believe in God" "religious bigots...
...We grant it, but should the State force thia monkey anti-religion on our children in the public schools...
...By all means, before you risk an answer to this question, you should see some of your "superiors," a big business man, a banker, a mine-owner, s railway magnate, a states man, a politician, or a college professor who knows hell lose his job if he answers sensibly...
...Chass calls those who believe in God snd stand by the Christian faith and the Church "religious bigots...
...Falls Creek, Pa...
...There is nothing in his article to warrant this assumption...
...Accuracy, speed are wanted...
...Robertson that The New Leader has only one interest in this matter...
...Congreve's "Love for Love," seen at the Greenwich Village Theatre during tht spring, will reopen at Daly's Sixty-third Strtet Theatre on September 24, undtr the management of A. L. Jones and Morris Green...
...The Engineer is praised for his work by his superior, but why is he rebuked when he demands more money or promotion...
...Of course, in such case the production and distribution of fish would be of prime importance...
...We have opposed the Ku Klux Klsn, which has tried to give its views a specially protected status by the State...
...Now^ve see ! the same resentment by Mr...
...This is our position snd we cannot depart from it...
...and it seems that any sane man would accept Jewish history, for we have them today just as the word of God told thousands of years ago...
...Chass, if you believe that, each time that they forgot God and went Into idolatry they were punished...
...We regret to learn that you misunderstand the policy of The New Lesder...
...We would fight him to the last ditch as a supporter of capitalism if he lived today...
...Chass called truth would have them force their Evolution theory down the threats of the 110,000,000 people in the United States...
...These are the conditions that exist today in United States Government employment...
...You use Socialism only to try to get your deadly poison in Christian homes...
...An investigation is therefore absolutely necessary, and it is the voice of all the men employed to know why they are not treated fair and square...
...We have always been opposed to any such favoritism to Catholics or others...
...The New Leader Mail Bag Objection and Answer Editor, Ths New Lesder: It is with sorrow that I And The New Leader persists in being an infidel paper instead of a Socialist paper...
...He applied the phrase to all those who would exclude the teaching of Evolution ,rom educational institutions and who would make teaching of the Fundamentalist creed obligatory...
...Can anyone, then, justly blame an Engineer who quits his job with the Government after obtaining sufficient practical experience...
...It fights for free education in all Acids, the presentation of all subjects within the sphere of education, and will oppose the selection of sny special doctrine, creed or science for Stste support...
...First, last and sll the time we stsnd for the workers and their final emancipation from capitalism...
...Fundamentalists want to include their creed and to exclude science...
...Now that seems preposterous to me...
...Your object is not Socialism but monkey-ism...
...For thousands of years millions of chattel slaves accepted the advice of their superiors and remained slaves, supporting the "superior" social paraaites who adviaed them that the "Lord lovea the poor and the meek" and the atupidly humble...
Vol. 2 • August 1925 • No. 32
