Correspondence: Wills & Duffy; Courage...
CORRESPONDENCE the morality of the situation should or Courage & chastity ...
...A sec- one will recover his natural heterosexunewly revised Butler's Lives of the Saints...
...10 pertherapy "is an option" for gay men nopolies, enhancing their political cent, 6 times...
...prayer, group support, and chaste friendships (Courage handbook...
...For this thirty-year Commonweal Familiarity with Jesuit-Catholic ideals, a dence in the church in Slovenia de- reader, it was one of the best ever: the marked desire to support the Latino comclined from 28 percent to 23 percent...
...She died in 1644...
...In the for- yet read Peter Hebblethwaite's masterprogram of "reparative therapy" pro- mer East Germany, belief in life after ful biography of Roncalli are advised to moted by some on the Christian Right...
...Lloyd who said Courage supports na in Central and Eastern Europe, 1997), those members who want to "grow discovered the same situation as Davis C L ASS I F I E D into heterosexuality...
...I did not of course "de- historian to denounce Newman pri- Courage because it has a policy "of fend" the barbarous alienation of vately as "the great Sophist," the "art- working to help gay men grow into Edgardo Mortara from his parents, and ful deceiver" who, by apologizing for heterosexuality" and this policy is I share Wills's civilized sense that the the unforgivable, "does the Devil's "risky because these men may marry, whole shabby incident is yet another work best...
...things without meaning it" (No- New York, N.Y...
...ous sampling of both well- and lesser- go forward in Rome, but when it does known figures...
...Zeller quotes FaPapal Sin goes to the heart of what is other hero, Acton, and his refusal to ther Peter Liuzzi who claims that the amiss with the book, and demands climb into Acton's pulpit led the great Archdiocese of Los Angeles bans clarification...
...EAMON DUFFY (Continued on page 44) Commonweal 4 September 8, 2000 ther reading in both the categories and "Listen...
...Eamon Duffy should caricatures, men driven by a single hate Newman's words...
...jects...
...This change is whether anyone comes to lay flowers are entitled to their views...
...There is not a word in our handbook about Saint John's "becoming heterosexual...
...he becomes a god, has ascribed to them by Father Lino one to contradict him, does uzzi's statement...
...before doing much harm to the church, nouncing the sanitary arrangements As a practicing and licensed psycholobut Newman felt "obliged" to: "We and berating the low morals of the na- gist and a five-year facilitator in the must hope, for one is obliged to hope, tives...
...The popes in Wills's book are Courage ministry, I am astounded at that the pope will be driven from the misinformation floating Rome, and will not continue the around the contemporary council, or that there will be an- Catholic scene...
...The of varied comprehensiveness, for fur- opinion on that matter...
...John Harvey, O.S.F.S., for helping houity to the present...
...The historian has no the Catholic church's teaching on toward criticizing the papacy I have business stamping around his subject chastity...
...I never make hagiographical matters will enjoy the erence section provides bibliographies such a statement, nor do I have an appendices to this readable volume...
...tic, a godlike tyrant: "We have The Courage people are too come to a climax of tyranny...
...tional Social Survey Program), confi- issue...
...Prologue the individuals profiled...
...I do state that Commonweal 44 September 8, 2000 some critics-such as Father Peter Li- cles, heaven...
...12-word minihimself writes above that reparative concerned with protecting their mo- mum...
...I usufocuses on helping gay men and les- cialist countries (Poland, Hungary, ally don't cry when reading Commonbians lead chaste lives and has a multi- East Germany, the Czech Republic, weal articles, but Father Komonchak's step program to aid them in that ef- Bulgaria, Latvia, Russia) and some piece on John XXIII provoked that reacfort...
...JOHN HARVEY, O.S.F.S and missionaries) and gives us a gener- Ward's cause for canonization is yet to New York, N.Y...
...You may also fax a resume to Faa transcendental order-a personally fects of the beatification of John XXIII (a ther Foley's attention at (773) 890-6801 or concerned God, life after death, mira- friend of mine, visiting the tomb of Pio e-mail it to jfoley@cristorey.net...
...As the lesbian and gay outreach di- tures his humanity and insightful gaze...
...Father Harvey found in Slovenia...
...Discounts 5 percent, 3 times...
...It does not have anything compa- Western European countries (Norway, tion (any of your readers who have not rable to Exodus, the much-publicized Denmark, the Netherlands...
...Please foramong young people in Slovenia...
...Pio Nono" in pur- neighborhood of Chicago...
...I hope you get a big, fat through which students earn most of their confirmation for Professor Robert Mur- prize for this one...
...review of The Changing Face of the Priestthat many members of Courage des- Irena Borowik and Grzegorz Babins- hood, and Red Smith to top it all...
...Commonweal 45 September 8, 2000...
...violent husband, serving as confidant to what it offers, but it should spur greater If Father Harvey believes that I wrote the Roman clerical world of her day...
...El MASTER OF ARTS IN THEOLOGY Programs of academic ex- Lawrence S. Cunningham teaches theology at the University of Notre Dame...
...mothers, penitents, outcasts, innovators, life-333 years after her death...
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...office...
...Manuscripts Wanted selves into heterosexuals is to encour- ANDREW GREELEY age a delusion...
...To be specific, it was Father fall of socialism (New Religious Phenome- Bordentown, N.J...
...Then there was Egan's nuanced At the same time, Father Lloyd said cohort and the 1980 birth cohort...
...But one point in thesis...
...405, New York, NY 10115...
...In the latter category is one might like to see a new category of The author replies: the former Sudanese slave, Josephine saint: a slow martyr at the hands of While researching "Dignity's ChalBakhita (died 1947) whose improbable church authority...
...church teaching...
...part of the larger phenomenon of re- on the tomb: "Not one in the ten years I Father Lloyd told me that Courage vival in virtually all of the former So- have been here," was his reply...
...Zeller writes that Courage When a reviewer has had his say about ers no service by parading a gallery of "is banned from some dioceses, which a book, by and large he should there- grotesques to "prove" an overarching feel it treads too closely to the reparaafter hold his peace...
...Chicago, Ill...
...hostility toward the people of the Mes- but I for one do not doubt that New- Both Zeller and Liuzzi have seriously siah...
...Discounts and monthFather Liuzzi counters by citing their own people...
...In times of crisis and For additional information call 212-662that homosexuality is an inherent trait...
...It is sad that he looked, chastity was everyone's should force us to such wishes" obligation, and the use of the (August 21,1870...
...There is no policy of pushing never wished that the pope would die matter like an outraged tourist, de- or urging people into heterosexuality...
...lesbians who want to transform them- they do the things they do well...
...And I have sexual faculty was restricted exnever called the pope a tyrant, clusively to heterosexual unions but Newman called him a climac- in lawful marriage...
...Actually, cal sketches of female saints from antiq- an active community of women in the Courage has the explicit approval of seventeenth century were met with cler- the Pontifical Council for the Family: Women Saints ical persecution...
...ond discusses the category of "invisi- al inclinations...
...The churches are RATES: $1.10 per word...
...side Dr., Rm...
...It is sophisticated and knowledgenot good for a pope to live twen- able to hold the monocular goal ty years...
...Acton, arguably, knew only to find that they still harbor homoexample of the church's immemorial more about the past than Newman, sexual desires...
...grow into heterosexuality...
...The school was foundrector with the archdiocese there, he The sketch is simple and well drafted...
...15 percent, 12 times...
...Cristo Rey has an innovative work-study program I would like to provide some statistical ple at the top...
...opportunity, bishops, whether Ortho- 4200 or write COMMONWEAL, 475 RiverIn his view, to support gay men and dox or Catholic, don't do good things...
...Kathleen Jones was responsible for re- ble women," saints in their own right As the director of Courage, I have vising the June and December volumes...
...BECOME A PUBLISHED AUTHOR...
...It is diffiof my Papal Sin [July 14],1 find it diffi- The past is another country, and cult to know where he got this imprescult to take seriously anyone who de- travel, they say, broadens the mind...
...not know his facts, and does cruel (REV...
...Belief in life after death Nono, asked the security guard uzzi-believe that to be the case...
...The final ap- in the United States banning Courage...
...support...
...the critical characteristics that we seek...
...JAMES B. LLOYD C.S.P...
...interest in the history of women in the that Courage offers reparative therapy, Those interested in the more arcane church, which is all to the good...
...Thanks...
...who have been overshadowed by their never received a letter from any diocese Based on her hagiographical work, she more famous husbands...
...CORRESPONDENCE the morality of the situation should or Courage & chastity gel could have appeared to a nineteenth- The article "Dignity's Challenge" [July century Italian priest of Pio Nono's lim- 14] reports that Father Peter Liuzzi of To the Editors ited intelligence and narrowness of for- the Archdiocese of Los Angeles says mation in the same light and with the that the policy of the church-approved Newman's own same clarity as it does to us, who stand group Courage is to help gay men With regard to Eamon Duffy's review on this side of the Holocaust...
...Mary (REV...
...a U.S...
...The last time I other pope...
...guage curriculum...
...A veriperately want to become heterosexuals ki, in their collection of studies on the table cornucopia...
...power, and extending control over payment required...
...Such is an option, not an obligation...
...Cristo Rey Jesuit High School seeks an exthat Courage was banned in Los Ange- The drawing of Pope John XXIII cap- perienced professional to serve as Director les...
...and, best of all, scriptural sources...
...Another foundress, lenge," I had the pleasure of interstory ends near Venice where she was a Australian Blessed Mary MacKillop viewing both Father Harvey and his highly regarded religious, and also (died 1909), whose biography is also in colleague at Courage, Father James Blessed Anna Maria Taigi (died 1837), this volume, might well fit the same Lloyd...
...allrc'rljIle, MLnnesou SO 'I At the same time, Courage may not deny the right of the individual to seek therapy to move as far away as possible from the homosexual condition which the church calls an "objective disorder...
...Her "This Pontifical Council for the Family Kathleen Jones institute was finally declared founded in supports the organization called Orbis, $20, 310 pp...
...death tripled between the 1955 birth do so...
...sion since Courage defines its primary fends the kidnapping of Edgardo Mor- But only if we are empathically alert goal as "helping...
...Newman was repelled by this tive therapy endorsed by some evanGarry Wills's response to my review of same dogmatic sermonizing in Wills's gelical Protestants...
...first provides an intelligent discussion of Courage also cautions individuals that The Liturgical Press is in the process of the tradition of women living in male such programs give no guarantee that publishing all twelve volumes of the monasteries disguised as men...
...But people, the past, the In "Dignity's Challenge" by Shawn church, are all more complicated than Zeller, the message of Courage is grossThe reviewer replies: that, and the historian does his read- ly distorted...
...SHAWN ZELLER The red-toned background sets off both college preparatory education to young the drawing and the words, and I love Latinos from the Pilsen/Little Village Slovenia & God the angled "No...
...But Courage does not force anyone to undergo any program of therapy...
...1877, but it was not until 1909 that she Courage, which was founded by Father was acknowledged as foundress...
...At the I think your August 11 issue has the same time, Courage has no Los Ange- most attractive cover design of any- Director of Development les chapter and Father Liuzzi told me magazine I have seen for quite a while...
...Both were very forthright and who raised a large family in the squalor category...
...But it is one thing to recognize man's principled reticence in the face misrepresented the purpose of that the pope's handling of the Mortara of the massive human and divine Courage, which is to teach men and case was tragically wrong, and quite complexity of the church was a more women with same-sex attractions to another to assume, as Wills does, that authentic intuition...
...Jones divides her In 1978 the Jesuits finally granted her mosexual persons to live in accordance saints according to categories (visionar- community their constitutions-some- with the laws of God and the teaching ies, martyrs, collaborators, wives and thing she had sought all during her of his church...
...GARRY WILLS motive, the aggrandizement of their The policy of Courage Evanston, Ill...
...vember 18,1870...
...frank with me in discussing their work of Rome while also, despite a surly and Women Saints is highly selective in and their views on homosexuality...
...ed in 1996 to provide a Jesuit-Catholic, should know...
...The church believes goes unnoticed...
...editorial calling the beatification of Pio ward a resume to John Foley, S.J., Cristo Among those born since 1955 there has Nono what it seems to be: a cynical Rey, 1852 West 22nd Place, Chicago, IL, been a considerable increase in belief in ploy by the Vatican to minimize the ef- 60608...
...And regarding Newman's attitude to difference...
...with the ear of your heart" - Rule of Benedct...
...has put together a single volume, Women pendix details the terrible experiences Are Zeller and Father Liuzzi able to Saints, which contains forty biographi- of Mary Ward, whose attempts to found produce such a document...
...to live in accord wit tara...
...diocese banning Courage...
...of Development...
...minimum of three years of prior DevelBetween 1991 and 1998 (in two surveys A cornucopia opment experience, and excellent writing of religion carried out by the Interna- Congratulations on the August 11 and communications skills are required...
...I cannot say whether or not Father Quality subsidy publisher accepting manHarvey has ever received a letter from Well covered uscripts...
...They has almost doubled...
...Advance and lesbians...
...The religious revival ly billing available for repeat advertisers...
...and that Courage lends them its moral churches of Eastern Europe after the PATRICK CONNOR, S.V.D...
...A Bachelor's Degree, ["Old Enmities Endure," August 11...
...Salary is contingent on experience...
...The ref- he has misread my article...
...cellence iaate MASTER OF ARTS IN LITURGICAL STUDIES preparation for spiritual MASTER OF DIVINITY CORRESPONDENCE egad pastoral leadership...
...letters skewering Duffy's inadequate munity, some knowledge of Spanish, and This occurred during a striking, if review of Papal Sin (great to see it on an ability to work as part of a team are largely invisible, religious revival the New York Times bestseller list...
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