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CORRESPONDENCE gy holding the keys to the kingdom, but out representation, or of teaching which Life &...
...and function where one hears the loudest the real problems...
...There are people who ,7ransc enrlenc e that are hastening the destruction of the have had several long-term partners, and American family...
...Ron Seitz captures Merton's Ames, Iowa support vicanates, deaneries, and parish- human spirit and shares in this rich remembrance many unreTo the Editors: Bravo for Michael Hunt's es in their evangelization efforts...
...casual, quiet atmos- in their own spiritual journey...
...Thereupon church structures The church needs to take these young would no longer seem so dauntingly pa- adults seriously, as does Fr...
...stay on their own ing that the priesthood be limited to celiterms, claiming the center rather than as- bate men...
...In matters of both faith and Mifflin...
...Carlin: We know it's no easy task a religious goods store once asked us, "You average lay Catholic to have a voice in the to go up against the cultural elite and their want to know the difference between the councils' makeup...
...In this book Hans Kung offers an did exercise "custody of the eyes"- that tended family's role in the child-rearing intriguing theological probing into is, if we spoke to anyone in the shower, process...
...Historically, many correct and hitting the bull's eye ["Searchbrings, plus the input of Mr...
...O'Connell's essay " Frangois Mauriac's 'Le Their Bishops are selected by a secretive To the Editors: I would like to commend cahiernoir"' [April 23 J. I read Mauriac's process without input from or apparent re- David R. Carlin...
...A theological study looks a lot like contemporary liberalism MAX COUCIIMAN chastened to pay greater attention to the ofMozart's music value of'community, this similarity should Carlin on gays: III he taken not as a sign that Tamir's proposal is insignificant, but rather as an in- New York...
...Now I'll read them gard for the people who will be most af- and arrows of the powerful politically with the greater understanding that age fected by the choice...
...These and other prac- to the keen ear "traces of transcendence...
...Openness for individuals and ters, so that the whole engine chugs along groups to consider different possibilities, Mixed up on ministry with a noisy and jarring dysfunctionality...
...church seem to notice and try to feed...
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...The question is how can one be reconciled to the persis- It is important to be clear about this...
...Animator for arch- Poet, writer, and intimate friend, God on campus diocesan programs...
...After No one who lives in the real world Digest and Book Review Index Microfilm from Vol...
...Sidney, Va...
...from the pope on down, is blessed with betnative among many...
...Yearly es on a serious problem...
...It is a loving and honest tribute...
...it was with eve-to-eye contact...
...I keep a special file for they have no real ownership of (and therethem, to which has been added David fore no responsibility to) their church...
...astrous to the family is the social and eco- MUCI I I LAS BEEN WRITTEN playing "drop the soap" was only an oc- nomic reality of moving people all over about Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, but relatively little on the casional crude joke-it was unthinkable the country for the convenience of the religious dimension of his person and that anyone would ever do it...
...Catholic Periodical Index, where I showed the pastor a picture of a exists...
...But one must look for the dysto be moving closer to giving a name to Collins's Are All Christians Ministers...
...searching for alternatives, embracing the East Lansing, Mich...
...for braving the slings novels forty years ago...
...We, as mainstream archy over doctrinal matters have also subscriptions, U. S., $39...
...1. 1924, to current issues available through University looking it over and asking a few questions, would dare suggest that opening up the Microfilm...
...of religious education...
...I believe that this can be found not as plaint has to do with the tendency of the universal vocation of Christians...
...At least here in Iowa proven broad ministerial experiences, influential life...
...It seems an adjunct to ordination and ministry, nor cultural Left to allege that all objections to survive largely because it doesn't threat- as a superior vocation or calling, but as to gays in the military arise from nothing en patriarchal structures or the restriction part of the personal detachment necessary better than bigotry...
...like everyone else, Remove the social punishment from dethey are birthed and reared in families...
...Canada, $71...
...A salesman for and makes no specific provision for the Mr...
...Thus celibacy and ordination became Many of the students are weak in their linked for reasons based neither on the- understanding of their Catholic faith, pos- ,"Here, ology nor on spirituality-but as a means sibly as a result of the psychologization of governance...
...parting an unhappy marriage and I suspect ISBN 0-8028-0688-0 But for the life of me I can't figure out that gays and straights would stay or split Paper, $9.99 how continued persecution of gays will at about the same rate...
...300 N. 7ccb Road, Ann Arbor, Ml 48106 he said, 'This looks great...
...Houghton while cause...
...about $50...
...least of which was avoiding the partition full stamp of approval to homosexuality, In an organization, when things go se- of church properties among the offspring 30: 21 May 1993 Commonweal of benefice holders who were clerics...
...Serials Data program No : ISSN 00103330 Second-class postage paid at New York, N.Y...
...In the wooded lands along the -RON SEITZ We've also found that teaching the Appalachian Trail...
...312) 631-1017, ext...
...It would be the height of hubris to sugchosen alternatives seem to be the more To the Editors: In the March 12 issue I gest that the following remarks will make appropriate solutions for today...
...Hunt...
...My com- century but it doesn't sufficiently value the cy...
...Mozart's music...
...Other than the restricwith the Lutheran pastor...
...pect you to a/n a.vs hehare responsibl v. " longer accept the imposition of taxes with2: 21 Mar 1993 Commonweal it goes some way toward demonstrating accept any reduction of social perks that what a political philosophy incorporating Carlin would impose on a "child-free" hoboth of these ideals will look like...
...All Canadian and foreign subscriptions our own fundraising practices in the must be paid in U.S...
...pleasant facts...
...One can't in the Latin rite, and especially in all of we going to choose yesterday's solutions but be thrilled by the simplicity and hon- the Eastern rites, there has never been, nor or today's...
...These visions seem right and just, and also theologically sound...
...The question is, personal freedom which unburdens the exAlso in the category of the intellectu- what can be put in its place...
...Catholic leader with a dynamic vi- Foreword by Patrick Hart, C.C.S-o...
...We seem to forget Increasingly the cultural Left reminds ter-than-average people...
...This would lead one to question why we shibboleths...
...JOAN AMBROSE COOPER way...
...Copyright 9 1993 Apocryphal or not, this little tale touch- pointed out...
...Fayetteville, N.C...
...mosexuals (no, they are not gays) should Why Catholics don't give True, the "faithful" can protest, but not be in our military, but the main one Aloha, Oreg...
...been disastrous to the institution of marriage and the family, and that no-fault divorce laws, high divorce rates, widespread acceptance of premarital sex, etc., are the CORRESPONDENCE causes of the relative delegitnnization of (Conhiruted f root page 2) marriage and the family...
...ly meaningless...
...I tually no obligation for bishop or pastor showed him a simple one which sold for to consult anyone before taking actions Mt...
...In our work at a voke, inspire, renew, and delight...
...Foreword by Yehudi Menuhin results of fwnily decline...
...sion for evangelization...
...p. 20, The Use of Memory...
...tires...
...Carlin...
...BILL McDONALD esty of Redmont's analysis: "Many is there now, a universal practice requirCatholic women today...
...to share in others' suffering and among students, a hunger that only the fun- In the heart of the Appalachian Mountains...
...A sermon by the young assistant Plan Ahead pastor on sexuality, which reaffirmed the 55th Anniversary, SUMMER SCHOOL OF 'd positives of Catholic morality, provoked SOCIAL ACTION, June 4-5,1993, Reynold TRIUMPHT' BOOKS some of the most thoughtful responses Hillenbrand Institute, Niles College Se- An Imprint of Liguori Publications from students...
...move apart as a result of that sermon...
...prompts these reflections...
...We have simply cho- tiful theory with consideration of un- not conclude that something is really wrong sen different ways of dealing with them...
...which presents a new creative understanding of communal shower facilities at the gym and values family, children, and women much the texts of the mass as interpreted by the beach, so I have a difficult time un- less than production and consumption...
...only after the fact...
...the Catholic and Lutheran churches...
...LARRY and MARY HANSEN To the Editors: I am constantly delighted submit that one of the reasons Catholics by the excellence of the literary articles give so meagerly is their perception that Carlin on gays: I in Commonweal...
...DAVID R. CARLIN, JR...
...ishes (and perhaps some dioceses) do ken word, but we traditional Americans Let me tell you a story...
...O'Connell...
...able to see real alternatives instead of Weaver's Springs of Water in a Dry Land...
...Sheed & Ward...
...Book Review gold tabernacle priced at S5,000...
...What cockeyed pri- convinced that by and large the church, riage by making it a freely chosen alter- orities...
...canon law (canons 492 was simply stated by Mr...
...Send resume secularized, emotionally needy, immature to: Rev...
...riages, the sexism that has kept women Catholic backgound - something that, What Carlin's comedy seems to have unrecognized in the home and unfairly paid surprisingly, has hardly been treated by missed is the matter of socialization...
...You're a t'erv poisonous snake, son...
...Merton would no longer be necessary to concep- We've also found many willing to serve tualize the ministry of lay men and women the very poor...
...from these pages may startle, proother campus ministers...
...phere...
...al observations may serve as a reply...
...Why this dysfunctionality...
...The first was they be so chosen...
...Of course, many par- pervasive control of the printed and spoCatholic church and the Lutheran church...
...Permanency and serve to rectify the damage done by dead- fidelity have to be rooted in the relation- At your bookstore, or call 800-253-7521 beat dads or illegitimacy-damage in- ship, in mutual commitment supported by FAX 616-459-6540 flicted, I thought...
...It Possibly because we must first recovI have no strong feelings one way or an- served well during the early twentieth er the true purpose and meaning of celibaother about gays in the military...
...So ago...
...Kong's approach tered similar socialization in their use of always existed in Western society...
...Serving To the Editors: Joseph Claude Harris's ar- and 537) allows the ordinary and the pas- their country is not the point-legitimizticle ["Pennies for Heaven," April 91 tor to appoint their own finance councils ing a perversion is...
...who had asked tions imposed in canon 1267, there is virCarlin on gays: II the to bring him samples of altar cloths...
...disagreements with the hier- Commonweal Foundation Single Copy, $2...
...Canada, $41: foreign, $44...
...It is alleged that one cou- minary, Loyola University, 7135 N. Harlem, I Liguori Drive, Liguori, MO 63057 ple who were living together decided to Niles, IL 60714...
...Must we as those of yesterday...
...derstanding why the military considers its The gay alternative reflects the society problems unique...
...CRAtir) l5P!t)S, MICR...
...Index of American Periodical Verse...
...I'll call olic has at least one story to tell of financial (Continued on page 29) you tomorrow.' mismanagement...
...systemically...
...Could it be that we've got Silence, secrecy, shame were the past so- it wrong somewhere where it really matlutions...
...laws which make it economical- Mozart's musical work...
...of Evangelization and Christian of Thomas Merton Life...
...The irony is that these conditions have in view of its contemporary cultural and political horizon...
...that our sisters and brothers in religion are Illustrations: Cover art, Chariot...
...the latest arrivals in academe are not the good communication skills...
...Almost every Cath- laugh or cry over David R. Carlin...
...26, 27, Rome Reboot, Yale University Press...
...of a single divisive and defining issue for with the clerical celibate state and have As for gays in the military, they have Catholic theology and practice: How we invested all ministry (and ecclesiastical jualways been there and will always be understand ministry in the church and risdictional power) within this model...
...box...
...This too is an urgent Search is on: Associate to the Director of A Memory Vision need...
...praxis in these matters...
...At this late date, who can the basic questions that govern our church ments...
...forCatholics, have no problem with the cler- contributed to the current dilemma...
...So why does it seem It is difficult to respond specifically to the marginal...
...30 photographs...
...elect their own administrative councils, but appreciate your efforts...
...Emphasis added.] to be so important for the Latin church to vague effusions of Messrs...
...I would suggest that these are effects scrip-comic "Searching for the Soap," I rather than causes...
...But they hunger at last, If celibacy and the sacramental ministry for the Bible, some even seeking answers were separated, the other dysfunction- in the Scripture studies offered by evan- is the alities would be addressed more easily...
...We have many married priests The writer replies: senting to a definition of their position as today in good standing...
...Thus it is right and just for women to "claim the center...
...I dare say that gays have there are people who have new partners HANS KUNG suffered along with everyone else from the frequently, just as in straight society...
...Retreat House But to encounter him, for whom state university where science and engi- the hermitage became not an Jesuit House of Prayer, Residence, and neering reign, we find a hunger for God escape from the world but a place Hikers' Hostel situated in Hot Springs, N.C...
...The problems of today are the same Galileo's telescope...
...962 do-liturgical creative fad to titillate student Hot Springs, NC 28743...
...In my squadron at Kecsler Field...
...In doing so we will be then Jane Redmont's review of Mary Jo squeaks or observes the greatest dis-ease...
...without the protection that society offers The crying part of Carlin's article has to the straight alternative...
...we company, the disappearance of the ex- music...
...4950...
...But I am human relationships will strengthen mar- ried two-parent family...
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...Thanks triarchal, for women would be welcomed for publishing his article...
...Wooster, said the salesman, "is the difference between panacea for our anemic stewardship prac- Ohio 44691...
...Ship it.' And drat," church's financial processes would be a and on Microfiche from Bell & Howell...
...delegitimized marriage more than divorce light on Mozart's "Coronation Mass" Gay males in this country have encoun- laws...
...But eign...
...Later on, monastic vows were confail to understand this...
...while leading males to avoid Mozart scholars...
...F. Kane, PO Box 1979, Chicago, The Thomas Merton who emerges adolescents decried by so many, even by IL 60690...
...CORRESPONDENCE gy holding the keys to the kingdom, but out representation, or of teaching which Life & letters we want to share the keys to the strong- ignores the integrity of their own spirituBrooklyn Heights, N.Y...
...cover, Antonno less generous than others when asked ucci: p. 2, Ray, Rothco: p. 8. Ross...
...because things are squeaking so badly, it CLASSIFIED is also urgent...
...We just con- IV advantageous to maintain abusive mar- Kung begins by discussing Mozart's sidered it good manners...
...ceptional Christian who is called to high ally dishonest are those who pretend not Coincidentally, a recent [March 19] levels of personal commitment generally to know that the sexual liberation move- issue of National Catholic Reporter, with pursued in communities of like-minded and ment of the last twenty-five years-in- eyes on the various sexual scandals of cler- similarly dedicated people...
...they've flocked to cooking I knew ."l at the margins, for married people would at the local shelter, though they often fail -PATRICK HART, o.c.s.o...
...ROBERT MARECK the Dept...
...It provides the dishonest...
...struggle, will surely affirm readers damentalists and some in the Catholic Home-cooked meals...
...fiscal chicanery, or ecoConmtontreal is indexed in Reader's Guide to "My next call was at the Catholic parish nomic disaster under the system as it now Periodical Literature...
...by heterosexuals...
...We seem first read Robert Imbelli's review of John it all right...
...dollars by International Money Catholic community have convinced us Order or by check on a U.S...
...train leadership...
...I ex- finance, it seems that most Catholics no pp...
...Couchman In describing the ministry of lay men limit its recruitment of new priests to the and McDonald, but perhaps a few gener- and women we are too easily reconciled celibate...
...B. EERDMANS ~ I PUBLISHING COQ Let me go out on the limb a little fur- couples support each other and get sup- 255 ]EFFERSON AV E. S. I...
...As Andrew Greeley and others have and at additional offices...
...hank...
...To schedule a private Just published $19.95 hardcover gospel and offering liturgies where the pres- or directed retreat, or a weekend for an inence of God is evoked are more important dividual or small group, write or call Father than adopting the latest liturgical or pseu- Vincent Alagia, S.J...
...Needed: counted moments in the last enthusiasm for the gospel, creativity, ad- decade of Merton's immensely article on freshman college students ["All vanced degree in theology or equivalent, Is Not Lost," April 9...
...Meanwhile, after the debris is cleared away, the true vocation of the Ron Seitz celibate as prophet and martyr could Position Opening SONG FOR NOBODY emerge once again...
...a loving community...
...Commonweal 21 May 1993: 31...
...I believe that eluding the gay rights movement-has gy which have made the news lately, sets a case can even be made historically for tended to delegitimize the married two- forth an impassioned plea to posit again this model in the earliest monastic moveparent family...
...Not long ago, I had two sales ap- there is no canonical requirement that NORVELL B. De ATKINE pointments in a small town...
...Jr.'s committee at our meeting tonight...
...under appropriate supervision, of course- - tices and attitudes have destroyed and The final part of the book sheds new and it seems to present no real problems...
...There are many ~ozarf to do with his zero sum game of social sup- gay couples who have been together for ports for stable heterosexual marriages with twenty, thirty, forty, and fifty years...
...In on the job...
...of millions of children whose lives have ment, poor performance, or bad intentions Granting legitimacy to several forms of been blighted by the erosion of the mar- on the part of those responsible...
...He said, 'I think this will he with direct financial bearing on the peo- To the Editors: Not knowing whether to fine...
...Why damage a beau- why are the wheels falling off...
...to the prophet, the witness, and the marcomplex than that, and those who pretend Collins's book seems to provide a schol- tyr (understood in its base meaning of givnot to know this are being intellectually arly basis for rejecting this cheapened ing cogent witness to God...
...Even how we are going to deal with this...
...They try their that many of today's marriages are peo- me of those Aristotelian astronomers who best, are well-intentioned, work hard, are ple who "had to get married" many years refused to look at Jupiter's moons through generally well trained and competent...
...Most of the gays I know would this doesn't fit the stereotype, very few peo- of also grieve at Carlin's litany of the factors ple know about it...
...pastors have been assigned in the same ing for the Soap," April 9...
...But yes...
...University...
...What has been more disdid both...
...There is much in- veniently at hand, but inappropriately Still further intellectual dishonesty is to terrelated material here: orders, jurisdic- applied, to reform conditions specific to be found among those who are righteously tion, ministry, sacramentality, celibacy, to the medieval ecclesiastical world, not the indignant at America's failure to give its name only the most obvious...
...dication of the continuing relevance of To the Editors: David R. Carlin, Jr., seems liberal principles to the important social to think that the past twenty-five years have questions of our time...
...ther and suggest that gays would gladly port from the wider community, there is Commonweal 21 May 1993: 29 greater willingness and capacity to work yet who have not a tear to shed for the tens riously awry, one first suspects bad managethings out...
...version of lay ministry...
...to positions of authority (even if one were JOHN DONAGHY reluctant to envision women as priests, the The writer is lay campus minister at the way would be clear to admit them to po- Catholic Student Center at Iowa State sitions of jurisdiction...
...readily be entering the ranks of the or- to understand the relation of poverty and dained, thus making this distinction large- injustice...
...He moves on to exthe Israeli kibbutz, boys and girls are their domestic responsibilities and to treat plore how Mozart's music itself displays raised to adulthood showering together- women as sex objects...
...Director), PO Box 7, 1-800-325-9521 ext...
...there, in the closet or out...
...but first let me check with the finance ple who pay the bills...
...Tell me, David, would the final analysis, the position she endorses this be carrying fair play too far...
...The issue is far more of the sacramental ministry to celibate men...
...Are tent patriarchy of its structures...
...Rothco: p. 9. to support what they believe to be a worth- Punch, Rothco: p. 13, Curriculum Vitae...
...It gelical groups on campus...
...in mosexual marriage...
...Once installed, bishops (and pastors) As a thirty-year veteran of military serhave virtually total control over the ex- vice, I could add pages of reasons why hopenditure of funds...
...As gay and lesbian 326 WM...
...Real alternatives do not have The two reviews grapple with two ends have identified the sacramental ministries to be protected...
...to a bland "Catholic Action" model...
...We think most Catholics do, and we al lives...
...P~ =1 interest...
...Since ,7-aces children...
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