EDITORIAL
CORROSPONDENCE Poor Among US Washington, D.C. to the Editors: Your poem The Poor Among You Always" which appeared ia the September 24 issue of your magazine seems written by a person "beyond the...
...In the preceding March, Cardinal Mellini had appealed to Lefebvre to desist from the illicit ordinations...
...Good, I thought...
...Further, you end the piece by comparing Paul VI to Hitler in the Pope's suspension of Mgr...
...though the bishop spoke of certain "conditions" for speaking with the authorities...
...Cameroon's article is far and away the best I have read on the subject...
...In the same month, a former protege of Lefebvre, Cardinal Thiandoum of Dakar, had personally begged Lefebvre to forgo the ordinations...
...The Vatican's suspension of Lefebvre may have been severe...
...second, because he disassociates that cause from the traditional manipulation of ethnicity by right wing anti-Communism...
...He quickly broke the ban, most notably in a traditionalist Mass at Lille on August 30...
...You might also ask him to develop further his thoughts on the philosophical weakness of unrooted universalism in the Western tradition...
...Lefebvre...
...and third, because he raises a profound theoretical issue about the "tenacity of ethnicity" before the universalizing tendency of the Western humanist tradition, including its marxian strain...
...I will do my part by filling out the questionnaire...
...TO the Editors: In his article "Second Thoughts on Sex" [Sept...
...After the ordinations, the bishop automatically incurred suspension, i.e., 'he was banned from exercising his priestly ministries...
...REV...
...However, without the security of a commitment to love combined with the reassurances of day to day loving actions, the individual's unconscious protective instincts resist the necessary level of emotional vulnerability, and sexual union is reduced to the level of mere physical union, susceptible to routinization, tri-vialization, and self-gratification, which undermines rather than nourishes these feelings...
...How better could Cameron have conveyed his condemnation of a sexual revolution (in the name of making a dandy aesthetic peak experience available to all those sexually frightened people out there), than by coolly, in an unfiapped critical style, have remarked' that the liberators have destroyed the experience in "liberating" it from all intimacy and spontaneity...
...The separation of defending human rights from right wing anti-Communism in turn opens us to the great complexity of church-state relations in Eastern Europe...
...ANNE C. GARRISON Letebvre and Rome Bronx, N.Y...
...Obviously the word was not defenestration, but something equally recherche, likely to send the average sexual practitioner to the dictionary...
...Today all but the most closed-minded on the Left are beginning to face the serious repression of basic human rights...
...Your writer, Mr...
...I myself am puzzled by the intransigence of the Vatican regarding those who prefer the Tridentine Mass...
...To the Editors: Peter Steinfels seems to lack his customary acuity in his reaction to the great J. M. Cameron article, "The Prison of Sexual liberation," in the May 13 New York Review of Books...
...Two things at least are wrong with questions like this...
...Why...
...It was not capricious or tyrannical...
...A decade ago the Cold War psychology, supported a siege mentality, quite like that of pre-Vatican II Catholicism...
...Having lived in France the past summer and followed closely the Lefebvre affair in the French media, I find such criticism of the Pope incredible...
...Moreover, there is no way such a questionnaire can possibly be answered by a celibate widow in her mid-fifties...
...The "cautious distance" and "superior detachment" Steinfels finds weaken the effectiveness of Cameron's criticisms of the sexual liberation movement are emphatically not a stance of one above the battle: rather, the quality of reserve and irony underscore, rather than detract from, a stringent moral criticism which is all the more effective for not being delivered at the top of the lungs...
...The French bishops expressed a similar eagerness to meet with the illicitly ordained priests...
...Today, however, especially with the growing "national" independence of the Spanish, Italian and, most recently, French Communist Parties (as well as the Japanese), more creative criticism is possible...
...to the Editors: Your poem The Poor Among You Always" which appeared ia the September 24 issue of your magazine seems written by a person "beyond the Beltway," which inner city tines call the Poverty By-pass...
...He has argued there is no continuity between the "Catholic" Church and the conciliar Church...
...Lefebvre has denounced Vatican II and the work of Paul VI as-heretical...
...REV...
...Permit me to say that this is no solution...
...Also, the fact remains that Archbishop Lefebvre three times asked to see the Pope, and was unsuccessful in securing an audience...
...You insist that the traditionalist bishop "was given no hearing in Rome...
...Cardinal Thiandoum was again dispatched to speak with Lefebvre on June 28...
...JOHN J, CONLEY, S.J...
...In June 1974 a commission of three prom-inant prelates (Cardinals Garrone, Wright and Tabera) was appointed by the pope to examine Lefebvre's tradi-tonalist seminary in Econe, Switzerland...
...this information needs to be assembled scientifically...
...To the Editor: Richard Krickus' article "Persecution in Lithuania" [July 16] deserves a wide hearing for three significant reasons: first, because of the attention he calls to the persecution of Catholic militants in Lithuania...
...Ill-gotten wealth and ill-used surplus really belong to others...
...Msgr...
...In the poor God speaks to out minds shrilly, to our hearts lovingly...
...We have kept silent too long, too many of us, while the oxen of this liberation movement have trampled down the rose gardens...
...To compare Paul VI to Hitter in this affair is shoddy and ignorant...
...I was merely reporting the fact of Ms comment...
...The confrontation between the Vatican and Monsignor Lefebvre erupted with the ordination of 12 priests at Econe at the end of June...
...If one has never practiced defenestration either alone or with a partner, what is the proper reply...
...By sending in frank replies to the pages of intimate questions provided, we would help, so we were told, in determining for the first time what was the sexual profile of the readership, and by extrapolation, I suppose, the public at large...
...Wausau, Wis...
...That is why I welcomed and took seriously the questionnaire on sexual practices a certain popularizing psychological journal offered its readers a few years ago...
...On this point, it is my own belief that the young Left in the West has a great deal to learn from the "new ethnicity...
...He has repeatedly humiliated the Pope and rejected the Council...
...Erich Weingarten, Rome: 1976), based on the studies of the Italian legal scholar Giovanni Barberini...
...The set of questions betrayed a grossly unscientific attitude in those who fashioned them, for they automatically ex-, eluded a proportion of those who might care to answer, but found no provision for the sort of replies appropriate to their circumstances...
...The commission met personally with Lefebvre after the French bishop had published a profession of faith (November, 1974) in which he branded the work of Vatican II and Paul VI as heretical...
...Francois Ducaud Bourget...
...Such critical openness from the Communist Left will, it seems, further strengthen the socialist movement in liberal societies...
...The poor are here, I believe, to teach US our lesson that We must live modestly...
...Typical questions resembled the following: When was the last time you and your sexual partner practiced defenestration...
...When it is also recognized that the feelings of trust, .self-confidence, and self-worth enable us to repress our instinct for self-preservation and respond to our altruistic instincts, we will be able to recognize the profound effect on human behavior which results from attitudes and behavior that reduce sexual union to the level of mere physical intimacy, and undermines these feelings...
...This was Msgr...
...JOE HOLLAND Center of Concern...
...24] Peter Stein-fels wrote that we have some guiding stars in the bewildering sea of sexual mores...
...During this time, the Vatican expressed its willingness to receive Lefebvre...
...Their pains are God's summons or invitation to us to share...
...I refuse to be considered a non-person for the sake of any survey...
...Because Caesar is still brutally conquering, as in Chile, the King is still repressing, as in Manila, and the Czar is still squandering as in the Pentagon...
...Archbishop Lefebvre described it as "an opening up of dialogue," adding that "many issues remain unresolved...
...HORACE MCKENNA, S.J...
...CORROSPONDENCE Poor Among US Washington, D.C...
...In this space I would like to speak some about the second reason...
...On June 12, the Secretary of State's office once again wrote to Lefebvre, warning of the division caused by the impending ordinations...
...Throughout the past two years, the Roman authorities have repeatedly corresponded and met with Lefebvre...
...When was the last time you sexually abused a mallard duck...
...JOHN DEEDY 'New Ethnicity' Washington, D.C...
...including religious rights, in certain sectors of the Eastern European societies...
...Since the writing of the News & Views item, however, a meeting did take place at Castelgan-dolfo, on Sept...
...Richard A. Haw-ley, seems to think that the poor call lor "increasing dole by Caesar, King and Czar...
...The individual may learn to harden himself to his emotional reactions in the unconscious effort to protect these feelings, but such hardening also desensitizes us to the emotions of others, making close personal relationships impossible...
...Lifting the ban on the .celebration of the former rite would serve a genuine pastoral need...
...Perhaps those stars will shine more brightly when it is more generally recognized that because of the level of mutual intimacy and mutual vulnerability possible in sexual intercourse, die feelings of trust, self-confidence, and self-worth can be nourished and replenished on a very fundamental level, provided they are already present in both partners to a sufficient degree to permit the necessary level of emotional vulnerability...
...DR...
...I refuse to accept the "scientific" findings of a survey that skews its sample, before the fact, by the ineptitude with which the questions are prepared...
...After the bishop of Geneva withdrew canonical authorization from the seminary in May 1975, the Tribunal of the Apostolic Signature listened to Lefebvre's appeal, which was rejected in June 1975...
...NOTE: The comparison of the Pope's "methods" to Hitler's was drawn not by me but rather, as the News A. Views item, stated, by a French prelate, whom I had left unnamed...
...To the Editors: I read with some astonishment your account of the confrontation between Paul VI and Monsignor Marcel Lefebvre ["Trouble in France," News & Views, Sept 10...
...Lord knows we need all the insight we can get in the arcane field of human sexuality...
...MARILYN KRAMER East Lansing, Mich...
...Nonetheless, the issue here is not the "old Mass...
...One did not wash dirty linen in public...
...Let me explain...
...An important contribution to this area has recently been made by IDOC's dossiers on Church Within Socialism: Church and State in Eastern European Socialist Republics (ed...
...Another letter, on June 25, warned of the pain of suspension if the ordinations were executed despite the publicly expressed sentiments of the Pope...
...It took only a few attempts at answers to convince me that a) it was a lousy set of questions, or b) I did not really exist...
...It is especially interesting that one of the new streams of protest is coming from a young socialist Left and from Christians who have undertaken a critical appropriation of marxism..It is not surprising, however, that many sectors within Eastern European state power (and also certain sectors of the church) are suspicious of this Eastern European equivalent of "Christians for Socialism," just like their counterparts in the West The creation of independent centers of social creativity fertilizing the religious tradition and critiquing the present political experience is of course threatening to bureaucratized leadership, both East and West Would you please ask Richard Krickus to tell us how people can follow the issue of religious freedom in Lithuania and perhaps support it according to our modest means...
...When I sent a protest to die editor ,of the journal pointing out the grave inadequacies of what was being offend as a valid attempt to make a scientific study, my letter was neither acknowledged or printed, though much of a later issue was devoted to "findings" and readers' comments, In an atmosphere of public credulity about the significance and sweep of a sexual revolution like this, was not Cameron's moral condemnation, veiled in deft razor-sharp irony, the best sort of attack that could be made...
...He has denounced the Mais and sacramental reforms of Paul VI as "bastard" before French television...
Vol. 103 • November 1976 • No. 24
