Jane and Jill and Anita Hill
Brock, David
In response to a review of my book The Real Anita Hill in the May 24 issue of the New Yorker, I wrote the following eight-page single-spaced reply. The review had appeared on Monday, May 17. On May...
...She declined, as Mayer and Abramson should have been aware from page 416 of the book...
...Since Mayer and Abramson do not provide the basis for their assertion that both senators were in fact interviewed by Fleming, and the supporting documentation of the Fleming report (texts of interviews, depositions, and written statements) has been sealed by the Senate for fifty years, I cannot independently verify this claim...
...The main argument made in my book still stands: Brudney used his prior acquaintance with Hill—whatever the extent of the acquaintance—as leverage to pull Hill forward and charge Thomas...
...They say that one source (Armstrong Williams) mistakenly "told Senate investigators that Brudney was working for the Senate at the time...
...On May 20, my editor at the Free Press, Adam Bellow, sent a letter to New Yorker editor Tina Brown requesting that the magazine print the reply...
...I attempted on several occasions, once by certified letter, to obtain an interview with Hoerchner, and had several conversations with Allen...
...the fact that Thomas exhibited no pattern of harassment...
...How do the records characterize Hill's performance...
...I invite readers to examine my book, their article, and decide for themselves...
...To the extent that a dispute exists about the matter, however, the proper thing for the Senate to do is to release the Fleming records to the public...
...These two technical points could have been cleared up easily had Wright granted me an interview...
...It has recently been brought to my attention that the published report was later corrected, and I now believe that my source was simply mistaken...
...Furthermore, when this discrepancy was pointed out to Hoerchner in the course of the interview, Anita Hill's attorney asked that the interview with Hoerchner go off the record so that she could confer with the witness...
...But as Hoerchner and Mayer and Abramson mistakenly imply, the phrase "wild guess" does not appear anywhere in the FBI interview of Hoerchner, a copy of which Mayer and Abram1 More recently, Hoerchner has come up with yet another variation on her original story...
...By their own account, Mayer and Abramson show that the two had to have known each other...
...The Shiles Affidavit Mayer and Abramson claim that my use of an affidavit charging that Hill put pubic hair in her students' papers is "the most egregious .. . of the book's distortions...
...However, I spent virtually an entire chapter carefully considering whether or not this was simply a slip by Hoerchner...
...Finally, Mayer and Abramson produce an unnamed "spokesman for Brudney" to deny that he was in touch with Hill during her EEOC years...
...But if Burke was "in no position to tell an associate to leave the firm," does the theory that Burke had told a black female associate other than Hill to leave the firm make sense...
...Mayer and Abramson hint that there are other—unnamed—corroborators for Hill's charge who never came forward at the time of the hearings and have not been interviewed by me...
...And why the phrase "saw and spoke...
...Mayer and Abramson seem unable to produce a record of the interview, much less report what it says...
...the revelation that Hill had a supervisor other than Thomas at the EEOC who was a known sexual harasser . . . and so on...
...my naming of Simon and Brudney as the leakers of Hill's allegations to the press...
...Having received no timely response from the New Yorker, on May 26 1 wrote to the authors of the review, Jane Mayer and Jill Abramson, asking them to meet me in debate on the facts of the Hill-Thomas case in any forum of their choosing...
...my conclusion that Hill was falsely presented as a Bork-supporting Reagan conservative when in fact she is a feminist and liberal activist, giving her an ideological motive to stop the Thomas confirmation...
...If he did, Hill was lying when she said that "no one asked me to leave the firm in any way...
...The New Yorker's fact-checking department insists that the alleged absence of any indication in the firms records that Hill ever worked for Burke "makes it highly unlikely that [Burke] would have had any role in evaluating Hill's work . . ." and that Burke, "as the juniormost partner in the firm at the time, with no role in the firm's associate-evaluation process, was in no position to tell an associate to leave the firm...
...To further clarify certain issues in dispute I have also amended the reply to include, where appropriate in my judgment, any relevant information disclosed in the 30-page, 48-point memorandum from the New Yorker in reply to my reply...
...Obviously, neither Williams nor Holt needed to have personal knowledge of Brudney's employment or his domicile to say that Brudney was friendly with Hill during the period...
...Hill and James Brudney In, disputing my claim that Hill and Jim Brudney—the former aide to Senator Metzenbaum whom I accuse of leaking Hill's confidential committee statement to the press—were friends during the time that Hill worked for Thomas at the EEOC, Mayer and Abramson endeavor to attack the credibility of my two sources...
...Mayer and Abramson further purport to reveal that the Shiles story was discovered by GOP Senate staff and imply that I covered up this fact...
...More importantly, I quote Hoerchner (at page 212) as saying in her committee interview, ". . . I have only been able to guess at the time—prior to September 1981...
...Could it be that memories are being enhanced even now, as Anita Hill's credibility is being undermined in a bestselling book...
...he said it was ridiculous to think he could not tell one black woman from another...
...In the weeks that have passed since I first wrote it, I have edited the reply somewhat to reflect new information that has come to my attention...
...Wald, Harkrader Mayer and Abramson assert that I did not present the reader with information contradicting John Burke's account that he had told Anita Hill, in a conversation in the spring of 1981, that it would be in her best professional interests to leave the Wald, Harkrader law firm, where she worked before she joined Clarence Thomas at the Department of Education...
...The Polygraph Mayer and Abramson purport to disclose that Paul Minor, the man who conducted Hill's polygraph test and comes under criticism in my book, "was a full-time polygraph examiner for the federal government from 1972 until 1987, when he retired as chief of the FBI's polygraph division...
...When Wright issued her statement to the Senate Judiciary Committee on October 11, 1991, the statement was in fact unsworn, as I reported...
...All three received certified letters requesting an interview...
...Hoerchner further described the call as having come in the context of weekly local calls while both she and Hill wereworking in Washington...
...If in fact the two senators were interviewed, this was nothing more than an innocent error on my part...
...Mayer and Abramson charge that I have an "agenda" and they have the facts...
...I also wrote to Green asking for the name of the phantom black woman, but he did not respond...
...Correction I have asked the Free Press to make one factual correction in my 438-page book...
...I cannot believe that Williams and Holt conspired to lie to me about this or have the same mistaken recollection...
...I had no knowledge of Simon's connection to the Citizens Committee, and would have told them so had they asked...
...Yet I have obtained the section of the FBI report dealing with Angela Wright's charges and there is no interview of Wright in it...
...Thus the mere fact that Wright was interviewed by the FBI does nothing to enhance our knowledge of the substance of her statement against Thomas, nor does it establish the credibility of that statement...
...Thus the "speakerphone" scenario does not ring true...
...the entire list of false, incorrect, and misleading statements in Hill's sworn testimony...
...Culturally, they are loosely comparable to the East Village (Adams Morgan) and Park Avenue in the upper fifties (Foggy Bottom...
...That issue now settled, my publishers and 1 have decided to print the reply in a magazine that has offered to do so in full...
...Robert Wald and Green—both of whom played indirect roles in helping to prepare Hill for her Senate testimony against Thomas—appear to have refused to give even friendly reporters Mayer and Abramson the actual records of the firm...
...Williams's statement is independently corroborated by another named source, Diane Holt, who recalls Hill speaking of dates with Brudney and of having spent weekends at his apartment...
...Hill ever talked about at the agency with [him]," and that she "let [Williams] know that [Brudney] was on the staff of a Senator...
...son do not appear to have seen, nor does it appear anywhere in the record.' My contention is that Hoerchner's "realization" of the discrepancy came in her Judiciary Committee staff interview, not in her sworn testimony, as Mayer and Abramson claim I said...
...23, 1991—about ten years after the fact—during my FBI interview, at the agent's insistence, and only after I had repeatedly told him that any such estimate could only be a wild guess," Hoerchner wrote...
...Accordingly, I have asked the publisher to take immediate steps to correct this error in the next printing of the book...
...But the phrase "in an interview" appears at page 252 before a reference to Ellen Wells...
...This allows them to avoid any discussion of the massive evidence I cite for questioning Hill's credibility...
...She was certainly never asked to leave the firm by Burke...
...But this does not contradict Burke, because it does not address whether Burke or anyone but the Associate Development Committee as a body suggested to Hill that she leave the firm...
...The name of this other woman remains undisclosed, though it is clear that even a name will not be enough to disprove or directly contradict Burke's affidavit...
...in the record...
...Williams claimed that Brudney was "one of the few people that Ms...
...I also reported Green's statement that "Hill's performance was not held to be unsatisfactory by the Wald firm...
...Where a witness had been interviewed, Fleming's practice was to refer, to take one example, to "interview of Senator Leahy...
...I reported that Judiciary Committee Republicans attempted to secure a subpoena for the Hill employment records after the Burke affidavit was sworn, but the Democrats quashed the request on a party-line vote...
...Jeff Londoff, named in the affidavit of Lawrence Shiles as one of the students who received the hairs in his term paper, is quoted by Mayer and Abramson as characterizing the original pubic hair story as a "joke," and says, "No one would know if the hairs were pubic or not...
...They are both named in the book, but Mayer and Abramson leave them unnamed in their review, creating the misleading impression that the sourcing was anonymous...
...Mayer and Abramson's misuse of the facts is a technique instantly recognizable to anyone who has read the chapters of my book dealing with the "borking" strategies employed against those deemed to be politically incorrect...
...Despite Simon's involvement with the Committee (consisting of the use of his name for fundraising and a small personal donation), to my knowledge no Olin Foundation or Bradley Foundation money was specifically used in any pro-Thomas lobbying effort...
...What Remains Unchallenged In conclusion, I think it is worth noting briefly what Mayer and Abramson do not contest...
...In retrospect, I would have noted Green's suggestion in a footnote...
...Brudney, they write, "has never lived in Foggy Bottom...
...After reviewing both the [Brock] letter and the [fact-checkers'] memorandum, 1 remain confident that our review is factually sound, and I see nothing in the letter that would merit its publication in our pages," Brown wrote...
...Mayer and Abramson assert that in her FBI interview, Hoerchner characterized the date of her phone call with Hill as a "wild guess...
...Therefore, by Hoerchner's own account—a transcript of which Mayer and Abramson appear to have been unable to obtain—Hill's complaint of "harassment" to Hoerchner could not have been made during the time Hill 'worked for Thomas...
...The more serious problems—including the circumstances under which the exam Was given, the refusal to release control questions and the actual polygraph chart, and Minor's prior false results and his attempts to hide these in the press conference when the results were announced—are not broached at all by Mayer and Abramson.2 2In a June 9 letter to the Washington Times, Paul Minor disputed my account that he had two results that later were shown to be false...
...The first result, Minor says, was contradicted by other examiners but not proven wrong...
...What is in the records...
...why won't Brudney himself go on the record and deny my account...
...According to Senate staff, after the hearings had concluded, the committee realized that under Senate rules Wright's unsworn statement could not be entered into the record...
...The release of the now-defunct firm's records is essential, though even that may not prove definitive, and seems quite unlikely...
...Why would she accept thirteen calls in as many days from a stranger and surrender to him a secret copy of her confidential allegations against Thomas...
...I did not mean to suggest that Wald and Simon have a personal relationship, only that they are political allies...
...Yet (at page 224) I reported Donald Green's sworn statement that "Certainly, the Associate Development Committee, which I chaired, did not ask or press her to leave...
...He says, "Hill and Brudney were never anything but friends of friends . . ." As to the silence of Brudney, "Brudney has consistently refused to be interviewed on the subject of the Clarence Thomas/Anita Hill affair...
...Yet in introducing the pubic hair story, I wrote (at page 355): Republican Senate staffers were busy canvassing students and former students of Hill's looking for dirt on the professor, about whom almost nothing was known...
...I reported that law professor Catharine MacKinnon had advised Anita Hill's attorneys by telephone prior to Hill's appearance before the Senate Judiciary Committee...
...They are incorrect in claiming I have not interviewed any of the three...
...This "divided Thomas camp" ultimately decided to do nothing with respect to Shiles, as I reported...
...If this is so, where were they two years ago, when Anita Hill was adamant in telling the FBI that Hoerchner was the only witness for her charge and then later changed her story and testified that she had told only three additional people...
...But this may have simply been a sexist and even racist joke made about the sole black female professor in the school...
...Furthermore, as I understand it, Abramson was in California when she called Williams, and Mayer was not...
...Apparently, Mayer and Abramson have ascertained this "fact" from Hoerchner's latest attempt—in the wake of the publication of my book—to explain the discrepancy, in a letter to Newsweek of May 10, 1993: "My estimate was made Sept...
...Brudney, they wrote, "saw and spoke to Hill once when they were both in Washington, when he bumped into her on the street...
...He told her only that he had regretted that I made the contents of these conversations public...
...She said that in subsequent calls she raised the subject of harassment, but that Hill declined to discuss it...
...Though Mayer and Abramson try to show that Londoff has either changed his story or been misquoted by me, I reported the exact same thing (at page 356) they are now reporting: that Londoff "could not be sure" whether or not the hairs were pubic...
...my exhaustive account of the relationship between Thomas and Hill when they worked together...
...Surely you must know someone in order to be able to "bump into" them...
...Either Abramson was misleading Williams, or something happened in the intervening period—perhaps the favorable reviews and strong sales of The Real Anita Hill...
...Wright's general credibility problems and particular threats to retaliate against Thomas for firing her...
...The New Yorker's fact-checkers write: "According to a knowledgeable source, the statement appears in the transcript of the interview of Williams by Senate Judiciary Committee members Biden and Thurmond...
...And she said she lost touch with Hill after moving to California...
...I am thoroughly familiar with this suggestion, since it was first made by Green himself in a letter to Senator Biden after the hearings concluded...
...At that time, neither Carr nor Paul could name Thomas as the perpetrator of the harassment...
...and by omitting the corroboration for Burke, they are able to overlook the obvious fact that if Burke has the wrong woman, then Hope, Berz and others from the Wald firm must all have the wrong woman as well...
...T he New Yorker has published a review of my book The Real Anita Hill by Jane Mayer and Jill Abramson, reporters for the Wall Street Journal...
...In the transcript of the hearing, Biden, quoting from a letter he had written to Wright, referred to "the transcribed interview of you...
...I do not have this transcript—nor, apparently, do Mayer and Abramson...
...Mayer and Abramson try to create the impression that I am unaware or have willfully failed to report that Hoerchner characterized her recollection about the date as a "guess," and contend that I would have found this out had I simply interviewed Hoerchner or her attorney, Ronald Allen...
...Mayer and Abramson are unable to name the alleged woman...
...T]ime records and evaluation records contain privileged client information, and so cannot be made public," according to the New Yorker...
...This raises the more general problem of being reviewed by journalists who are writing their own competing book on the subject...
...Having reviewed the record once again, I cannot locate any "legal affidavit under oath" made by Wright subsequent to her unsworn statement to the committee...
...Would they necessarily document every instance in which every Wald lawyer worked with another...
...Then, having previously dismissed my Hoerchner theory as an "extraordinary case of mistaken identity," they try to discredit Burke by suggesting that he confused Hill with another black woman in the firm who Mayer and Abramson allege was having performance problems at the same time...
...To my knowledge, the committee members did not conduct any interviews of potential witnesses, so I would question how "knowledgeable" this source is...
...The question was not whether the New Yorker found my reply to be correct, but rather whether a free exchange on the issues raised in the book and the review would be permitted in the magazine's pages...
...I refer readers to page 224 to judge the import of his remarks for themselves...
...Wright was called at the Charlotte Observer in North Carolina in late 1992 and asked for an interview...
...As I clearly stated at more than one point in the book, my references to "the Thomas camp" were not meant to include free-lancing Republican Senate staffers, nor even Republican Senators other than Danforth...
...What is meant by the phrase "not . . . unsatisfactory...
...John Carr and Joel Paul declined...
...This includes the full sequence of events, with Senate staff and interest groups pressuring Hill in the days leading up to her televised testimony...
...have yet to receive any response...
...Whatever the case with Simon, Wald does not seem to contest the relationship with Kennedy, so the general point stands...
...The reader is thus unable to fairly evaluate their contention, because Mayer and Abramson have yet to show their hand...
...I based my statements to this effect on a confidential source and a published report (in the New Republic by Newsweek reporter Bob Cohn, who covered the Thomas-Hill hearings...
...The link was raised to suggest that Patricia Wald was a possible conduit of information regarding Hill's work history at Wald, Harkrader from Hill's legal team to Hill's partisans on the committee...
...and Wells could not provide one detail of the alleged behavior by Thomas, nor could she in my interview...
...On June 14, the New Yorker finally reached a judgment...
...He does not believe he has corroborated Burke's account...
...Could it be the case that while Hill's performance was "not . . . unsatisfactory" her prospects were "limited," as Burke claims he told her...
...And Berz has apparently told the New Yorker that he feels I "misrepresented" his remarks about Hill's performance problems at the firm and took them "out of context...
...and Wright's decision not to testify...
...This would not rule out friendly telephone calls, would it...
...book and their review...
...Only in the cases of Senators Simon and Metzenbaum do the notations read, for example, "statement of Senator Simon, Para...
...I am sure that it was after she started working with Clarence Thomas because in that conversation she referred to him as her boss, Clarence...
...As the reviewers themselves note, "all nonfiction books contain errors," and I acknowledge that my book will be found to contain some minor ones...
...Both are in Adams Morgan, which is 'near' Foggy Bottom only in the sense that the Upper East Side is 'near' Harlem...
...If they later left Mayer and Abramson "[with] no doubt that Hill confided both the nature and the source of her harassment problem," one has to wonder why they didn't provide this information to the committee under oath at the time...
...I can only stipulate to what the witnesses said under oath, and in the extensive interviews done by the Senate Judiciary Committee before they testified...
...As I argued in the book, the point is not whether Green (or anyone else at the firm) did not know of the Burke conversation or that the firm's records allegedly do not show that Hill worked with Burke...
...Obviously, Judge Hoerchner testified publicly that Hill complained of harassment by Thomas...
...I had thought it was a convention of book reviewing to avoid such blatant conflicts of interest...
...To the extent that this matter still remains in dispute, it seems to me that Mayer and Abramson cannot rely on descriptions of the firm's records by former partners who supported Anita Hill during the Senate hearings to make their case...
...The Foundations I have no comment on Mayer and Abramson's attack on my motives, except to correct their insinuation that my author's note constituted something less than "full disclosure...
...But Mayer and Abramson go much further, alleging—but never demonstrating—a pattern of deliberate distortion on my part...
...The Hoerchner Testimony Mayer and Abramson assert that I do not explore the possibility that Susan Hoerchner—who told Senate investigators and the FBI that the now-famous call from Hill complaining of sexual harassment came in the spring of 1981, six months before Hill went to work for Thomas—simply "got the date of the conversation wrong by a few months...
...This objection—that I have taken an insignificant lapse of memory and inflated it into a massive credibility problem—has been raised by a number of reviewers...
...Wright was then sent a form in which she swore to the truth of the prior statement...
...In any event, even if Williams did misremember where Brudney was employed at the time, this has no bearing on his clear testimony that Hill mentioned Brudney by name and received numerous telephone calls from him during the time Williams and Hill worked together at the EEOC...
...In the Federal News Service transcript of the hearings, the full text of the unsworn Wright statement appears in the record, but the affidavit that Mayer and Abramson refer to does not...
...Not surprisingly, after a month-long investigation, the magazine's factchecking department had determined that all of Mayer and Abramson's facts were right and all of mine were wrong...
...The staffers did not have to look very far before they came upon the story of a former ORU student of Hill's who claimed that she had put pubic hair in one of his law school exams...
...Mayer and Abramson make no attempt to deal with any of that evidence...
...The Brudney spokesman is now identified by the New Yorker as one Joel Johnson, chief of staff to Senator Metzenbaum...
...Hope is dismissed because she did not submit an affidavit against Hill at the time...
...I was able to determine that another black woman by the name of Loretta Argrette worked for Burke at the firm, but Argrette was regarded by Burke and the attorneys in Burke's division of the firm as highly competent...
...Hill's Other Witnesses I have no access to interviews Mayer and Abramson say they have conducted with Hill's three other witnesses...
...When Hoerchner returned, she could suddenly recall nothing about the circumstances of the call...
...Holt's recollection that the apartment was "in Foggy Bottom, I think" is seized upon by Mayer and Abramson to discredit her entire statement...
...the only relevant point is whether or not Burke had a conversation with Hill in which he told her she should leave the firm...
...Mayer and Abramson falsely charge that I have omitted from the book the following Hoerchner testimony: "[Hill] had gone to work for Clarence Thomas in the Department of Education before she mentioned any problems with harassment...
...Further, contrary to the charge that I "distorted a puerile student joke into a corroborated instance of seriously strange behavior," in Note 30 of Chapter Nine, I myself dismissed the import of the entire Shiles affidavit: "The fact that the students joked that the hairs were pubic at the time was confirmed by other students in the class...
...This is a distinct change from her prior statement that her contacts with Hill were "less than sporadic" after she moved to California in September 1981, consisting of a chance meeting at a professional conference in 1984...
...Mayer and Abramson say that Wald and Simon "agree" that they have never met...
...I also quoted one Justice Department official (at page 355) as saying that the story was regarded as "akin to an Elvis sighting" by department lawyers...
...The recollections of Hope and Berz do not, in the judgment of the New Yorker's fact-checkers, constitute "substantial corroboration" for Burke's affidavit...
...During the years that Anita Hill lived in Washington," the New Yorker's fact-checkers reveal, "James Brudney lived at two addresses: 20th Street and Calvert Street, and 18th Street and Summit Place...
...According to the New Yorker's fact-checkers, "Abramson denies ever having said anything of the sort to Williams, and says she has told him so, in a conversation in which Williams told her that Brock had mischaracterized the purported conversation between Williams and herself...
...Therefore, I did not feel obliged to report an unsubstantiated suggestion raised by Hill's supporters then—and now produced as a new "fact" by Mayer and Abramson...
...Earlier in the week, the two had declined invitations to appear opposite me on both "Larry King Live" and the "Charlie Rose Show" to discuss my David Brock is an investigative writer for The American Spectator and author of The Real Anita Hill: The Untold Story (Free Press...
...The Dupont Circle and Kalorama Road neighborhoods separate Foggy Bottom from Adams Morgan...
...Mayer, who heard the conversation on a speakerphone, confirms this...
...Noting that the New Yorker does not traditionally publish letters to the editor, Bellow wrote that considering the "innovative and adventurous spirit you [Brown] have brought to the magazine . . . we hope you will agree that it is only fair to allow our author the right of response to his critics...
...In the end, I argue against the possibility that Hoerchner simply got the date wrong, on these grounds: By Hoerchner's own account, given in an interview with the Senate Judiciary Committee before she testified publicly, she moved from Washington to California in September 1981, the same month that Anita Hill went to work for Thomas...
...the case that Hill's charge was not "typical" of sexual harassment charges...
...She told Time (June 28, 1993) that she did not lose touch with Hill "until much, much later, after she left the EEOC [in July 19831...
...Yet (at page 283) I identified Minor as "a former chief polygrapher for the FBI...
...My statement that Shiles was "under no pressure from the divided Thomas camp" to swear the affidavit, viewed in its context, clearly refers to the split between Senator Danforth, Thomas's Senate sponsor, and the Justice Department on the issue...
...The reporters are themselves writing a book on the same subject, to be published later this year, entitled Strange Justice: The Selling of Clarence Thomas...
...Angela Wright In an attempt to re-establish the credibility of Angela Wright, the so-called "other woman" with a harassment charge against Thomas, Mayer and Abramson fail to address any of the substantive issues raised in the book: Wright's own statement that she was not going to charge Thomas with harassment...
...Berz was quoted accurately...
...But she was now adamant that Hill had named her "boss Clarence" as the harasser during the call, a point on which she had previously been unsure...
...He then quoted this statement from Wright: "I agree [to] the admission of the transcript of my interview...
...Mayer and Abramson ignore my corroboration for Burke's affidavit, including the statements of Judith Hope and David Berz...
...Minor concedes that the second result—in which he found a witness to be lying—was later contravened when the story was corroborated in part, but Minor considers the truth of the matter still "unresolved...
...Hoerchner declined to be interviewed, but she did set forth her version of events in a letter to me, which I duly cite in the book...
...The reviewers make much of the fact that William Simon, the chairman of the board of the Olin Foundation, which gave me a $5,000 grant for my book, was also the finance chairman of the Citizens Committee to Confirm Clarence Thomas...
...There is no way one could determine from the record that Wright had been interviewed by the FBI or that she had signed this affidavit subsequent to her committee interview...
...When the two inquired about the amount of the grant, they were told by Olin, yet they preferred to use the word "bankrolled" to describe the contribution, leaving the amount unreported...
...my argument that the committee acted properly in this case (contrary to the many unfounded assertions in Abramson's own reporting for the Journal at the time, which comes under heavy criticism in my book—another interest which Abramson does not disclose in the review...
...In this connection, I also wrote that Circuit Judge Patricia Wald, wife of Robert Wald, "was close to" Senators Kennedy and Simon...
...Instead, they focus on the minor matters of whether or not Wright had been interviewed by the FBI and whether or not her statement to the committee was "sworn...
...Nowhere is there a reference to any alleged affidavit made by Wright retroactively conferring sworn status on her statement, nor is the statement anywhere referred to as "sworn...
...Neither Simon nor Metzenbaum (both recipients of certified letters requesting interviews), nor their staffs, nor Fleming, would speak to me...
...In early May, Jill Abramson told Armstrong Williams that while she found my book "too speculative" in parts, overall she found the book "very factual" and consistent with her own reporting on this matter...
...Can Mayer and Abramson produce a record of it, or at least name the "investigators...
...5." Fleming is a careful lawyer, and thus there must be some reason for the different notation in the Simon and Metzenbaum cases...
...Wells told the New Yorker that "she may have spoken briefly with someone who may have been Brock, but that she never gave him anything that she considers an interview...
...Yet I reported (at page 215) the following Hoerchner testimony: "I should say, before telling you about this conversation, that I cannot pin down its date with certainty...
...While I correctly reported that Wright had "refused to be interviewed by the FBI," she eventually yielded and was interviewed by the bureau on Saturday, October 12, 1991, as Mayer and Abramson assert, and as I have been able to verify independently...
...I do not know which "investigators" Mayer and Abramson are referring to, nor am I aware of any such alleged statement by Williams...
...Secondly, Mayer and Abramson's assertion that "the well-funded conservative coalition" supporting the Thomas nomination "wa's backed in part by the same foundationsthat have supported this book" is misleading...
...In a June 15 letter to me, Williams denied telling Abramson that I had mischaracterized the conversation...
...I asked Burke about it in a 1992 interview...
...The New Yorker attributes the information to the senators' "public information representatives...
...If Wright told Mayer and Abramson that I made no attempt to contact her on these or any other matters, this is a lie...
...Their review impugns my professional reputation and integrity, and purports to disprove or contradict many of the factual assertions in my book...
...It has always been the policy of the partners . . . to maintain the confidentiality of its personnel files...
...More than once, Mayer and Abramson try to raise doubts about my reporting by implying that they know more than I do, yet they do not say what...
...Their refusal to appear resulted in the cancellation of those bookings—apparently 1 may not appear on television unless accompanied by someone who will brand my book a lie at the very moment it is being presented to the public...
...the question is whether her testimony was true—and there is a good deal of evidence indicating that it was not...
...Her book would "end up corroborating" much of what I reported, she told Williams...
...According to the New Yorker, Mayer and Abramson continue to believe that Williams and Holt are mistaken about any Hill-Brudney connection...
...Newspapers and-magazines, of course, regularly publish letters that the editors of those publications may find unpersuasive...
...Simon, Metzenbaum, and the Fleming Report I drew the conclusion that Simon and Metzenbaum had not been interviewed by leak investigator Peter Fleming from the footnotes in the Fleming report...
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