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...The "homophobic" charge is correct end of the political spectrum...
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...the wider Catholic tradition which I cher- which pass themselves off as universities...
...higher education is already being folTo the Editors: Raymond Schroth, S.J., But Band-Aid checks will not cut it...
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...Hoyt is umn on gay people in military service, and was provided by Hoyt when he said that far from condoning such outrageous conby Edward Gaffney's brilliant assessment his "besetting ideological temptation...
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...I especially appreciated the The author replies: sition itself in the supermarket of higher example he gave of Frank O'Malley's legLet's see, I've mentioned Franciscan education as a place where obedience to endary classes at Notre Dame in the forUniversity at Steubenville twice in my life the (capitalized) Magisterium governs all ties and fifties, and how Robert Coles is and both times the university's public re- gives further pause...
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...Elizabeth Liebert, S.N.J.M., Professor San Francisco Theological Seminary ent family is a normative social institution To the Editors: Enclosed is my last-minute • Lawrence Murphy, S.J., Provincial, that would be weakened by the legitimation renewal, sent with misgivings because of Irish Province, Dublin of alternatives, Mr...
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...they also conUp, my anti-utopian pessimism tends to demned those of the Left, namely, Getting students started maximize it, leading me to see Act-Up as Communists and fellow travelers (the true a logical consequence of the "Left McCarthy- reds and pinks) who dismissed all critics Oak Park, III...
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...In other words, the am myself a utopian...
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...February 121 stopped tual problems facing all the Saint Angelas spent the last ten years of my life on short of where we need to go in finding of our Catholic world-whether in inner Catholic campuses, I can vouch for the or restoring what is Catholic in our Catholic cities, affluent suburbs, or rural areas-, truth of his laments about the state of institutions of higher education...
...but, thinking now in Raymond missing Franciscan University, where, as body of literature, which ranks among the Schroth's terms, their replies strike me as it happens, those courses are taught, where great intellectual achievements of Western full of images of "death and fire," rather Christopher Dawson, Walker Percy, Flanculture...
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